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Paid Marketing and Conversion Rate Optimization – with Steven Pemberton

In this episode of the E-Commerce Marketing Podcast, Arlen Robinson interviews Steven Pemberton, co-founder of Elevatum Digital. Steven shares his journey of growing two e-commerce businesses, including transitioning from corporate life, the challenges of Amazon, and eventually helping businesses with paid marketing and conversion rate optimization (CRO).

The conversation covers Steven’s background in building million-dollar storefronts, overcoming hardships like being shut down by Amazon, and eventually moving into consulting, helping businesses scale from $500k to $5 million in revenue. Key topics include customer service, product positioning, and the importance of diversifying sales channels and CRO to improve performance before focusing on paid marketing strategies.

Key Takeaways:

Building an E-commerce Business (00:30 – 03:36)

Steven shares his journey from corporate life to supporting his wife in starting an e-commerce business, which grew to $1 million in revenue.

Importance of hard work and realizing that in business, unlike in corporate jobs, there’s a significant delay in seeing the payoff for effort.

Amazon’s Influence and Challenges (10:07 – 15:47)

Steven discusses the major issues e-commerce businesses face with Amazon, including sudden account shutdowns.

He emphasizes the importance of not relying solely on Amazon as a sales channel and diversifying revenue streams through independent platforms like Shopify.

The Power of Customer Service (18:41 – 23:26)

Excellent customer service was a major factor in improving Steven’s conversion rates.

The difference in results when customers receive quick responses and personal interaction, highlighting the impact of strong customer relations on repeat purchases and word-of-mouth marketing.

Effective Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO) Strategies (23:26 – 28:07)

Standardizing fonts, image sizes, and creating lifestyle images for product listings are crucial for a cohesive brand experience.

Steven advises working on high-converting product pages first and testing small changes like button colors or product descriptions to enhance user experience.

Paid Marketing Strategy (28:07 – 33:57)

Paid ads should not be prioritized until the website (the “bucket”) is solid, meaning optimized landing pages, good customer service, and a smooth customer journey.

Steven recommends segmenting ads to attract both high-intent buyers and those who are just problem-aware, to nurture potential customers through the funnel.

Importance of Testing and Patience in Paid Marketing (36:58 – 38:43)

It’s important to continually test and iterate on ads and CRO, allowing for failures to find what works.

Don’t overreact to short-term performance; zoom out and analyze the data over a longer period (e.g., 30 days) to make informed decisions.

Lessons in Scaling Businesses (39:58 – 44:02)

Steven shares the lesson of zooming out and having a long-term vision for the business.

He stresses the importance of being paranoid enough during the high times to diversify and defend your business against potential future challenges.

Guest Contact Information:

LinkedIn: Steven Pemberton

Website: elevatum.digital

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